Los Angeles Organization of Ultimate Teams

Winter League 2014


Winter League is so on!!



  • Games to 15, hard cap at 17.
  • Footblocks ARE allowed
  • 1 time-out per half and one floater. No time outs in overtime.
  • 2 team forfeits and you are out of the league.
  • No games on Valentine’s Day, MLK day or Presidents Day
  • You MUST play in two regular season games to be eligible to participate in the tournament.
  • Team shirts are NOT provided.
  • You do NOT need to be a UPA member to play.
  • You may schedule make up games from rain-outs on your own with the other team’s captain, but there is no official field space to do so.

There are 3 Divisions this year.


For Elite and A Division teams, the format is 4 men and 3 women all the time. There is no other option. The cap for women on a roster is 8, no exceptions. For B Division teams the format is 5/2 or 4/3, offense chooses as long as both teams have at least 3 women.

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  1. I’m interested in a full discussion of what took place on Saturday with Retro and Top Shelf.

    I’m sure I’m missing some of the details, but from what I understand Top Shelf broke the letter of the law. They had a player who had only played in one regular season game and then played in the tournament.

    However it sounds like they didn’t break the spirit of the law.
    It’s not like they recruited a bunch of nationals level players to come to LA for the weekend to win a tournament. They added a player who is new to LA and even had her for a regular season game. I’m sure if she was able to, she would have played more regular season games.
    Did this player make a 7 point difference?
    Considering Top Shelf would have been savage without her, maybe, but probably unlikely.


  2. Also, how many of the “yes” votes came from Retro players…

  3. To be fair the poll has been up much longer than the full explanation, so I can imagine quite a few people voting solely from the wording of the question

  4. Peebs discussed this in the article that was just posted. Whomever was the ultimate decision maker in DQing Top Shelf did the right thing. They were told they couldn’t play with this person, but they still did it.

    I think the real question is should Top Shelf have been allowed to play with her? I would vote yes. I understand we want to avoid ringers, but playing 3 games savage is awful. As long as someone that doesn’t play for Top Shelf could verify that this girl was not a ringer (i.e. an elite club player), she should have been allowed to play, in my opinion. In Peebs’ defense, he was consistent in his treatment of this situation. Kong requested to add an extra lady for the tourney and was denied as well (one girl tore her ACL and the other had a wedding to attend). We were fine with this as we agreed that 5 ladies was enough to get us through the day, but we thought it didn’t hurt to ask for a 6th.

    I don’t like the excuse that she couldn’t have made a 7 point difference. If you win by cheating, then say “well we beat you so bad we would have won even if we didn’t have her,” then just don’t play with her in the first place.

  5. I have a question for you guys. What responsibility does a team like Top Shelf have to figure out their tournament situation at least two weeks away, so if necessary they can try to find a player who can make the final two games and be eligible for the tournament?

    Peebs said no roster changes after week 3 without consulting him first, meaning he would allow a player to fill for injuries so long as they make their 2 games.

    Top Shelf had 8 rostered women. Only 3 made the tournament. Did they lose all 5 players within the final two weeks of the season?

  6. I don’t understand what her level of play has to do with it? If she’s not a ringer it’s OK?

    So if some mediocre player discovers they are going to be in LA for a few weeks coinciding with the tourney, they should be allowed to pick up, but if some player from Fury discovers the same thing, they should not be allowed to play?

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